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Devi, 2001-10-08 21:56:06 Salud d'an holl, Is there a difference between using "e" or "e-barzh"? e da sac'h = in your sack can one also say "e-barzh da sac'h"? In French, if I understand this correctly, one would say "dans ton sac" but one wouldn't say "dedans ton sac". I have the impression that "e" is like "dans" and that "e-barzh" is like "dedans" but I am not 100% clear on this. mersi bras, Devi eus Seattle Re: "e" pe "e-barzh" Steve, 2001-10-09 11:11:05 Salud Devi, This is one of the messier areas of spoken Breton. Basically, there are three possibilities for "in", all of which have variants: 1 e, en (before vowels); Treger /én/, /in/ before all words 2 e-barzh, often pronounced as /baz/, /bah/ and even /ba/ and the combined form 3 e-barzh e(n) usually with /baz/ or /bah/ Furthermore, in northern Brittany (Leon and Treger), when combined with ma/va "my" and da "your", there are special forms written em, ezh (actually ez, but etymologically it should be ezh). In Treger, these are used with a preceding 'n (from en), and pronounced (in my house, in your house): 'n om zi, 'n ezh ti These forms may also be preceded by bah: bah 'n om zi, bah 'n ezh ti In Kerne Uhel, you tend to get: baz ma zi, baz da di The same sort of variation goes for e plus the article: 1 en ti, er c'hlass 2 e-barzh /baz/, /bah/ an ti, ar c'hlass > ba'n ti, ba'r c'hlass 3 e-barzh /baz/, /bah/ en ti, er c'hlass Hope this answers your questions. Kenavo prestig, Steve Re: "e" pe "e-barzh" Devi, 2001-10-09 19:32:24 Steve wrote: > > Salud Devi, > > This is one of the messier areas of spoken Breton. Indeed! mersi c'hoazh! Devi Re: "e" pe "e-barzh" Steve, 2001-10-09 11:14:39 Salud Devi, This is one of the messier areas of spoken Breton. Basically, there are three possibilities for "in", all of which have variants: 1 e, en (before vowels); Treger /én/, /in/ before both consonants and vowels 2 e-barzh, often pronounced as /baz/, /bah/ and even /ba/ and the combined form 3 e-barzh e(n) usually with /baz/ or /bah/ Furthermore, in northern Brittany (Leon and Treger), when combined with ma/va "my" and da "your", there are special forms written em, ezh (actually ez, but etymologically it should be ezh). In Treger, these are used with a preceding 'n (from en), and pronounced (in my house, in your house): 'n om zi, 'n ezh ti These forms may also be preceded by bah: bah 'n om zi, bah 'n ezh ti In Kerne Uhel, you tend to get: baz ma zi, baz da di Nowhere do you get e ma zi, e da di. The same sort of variation goes for e plus the article: 1 en ti, er c'hlass (the vowel is very close: é, not open è) 2 e-barzh /baz/, /bah/ an ti, ar c'hlass > ba'n ti, ba'r c'hlass and the combined form: 3 e-barzh /baz/, /bah/ en ti, er c'hlass Hope this answers your questions. Kenavo prestig, Steve Re: "e" pe "e-barzh" Eliboubana, 2002-02-01 12:17:30 What you wrote about the difference between e and e-barzh semms perfectly correct to me. E means in, e-barzh means inside. | |
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